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DocWorking: The Whole Physician Podcast. Doctors devote their lives to caring for others, but the time has come to prioritize the health and wellness of physicians. As physicians, we make decisions every day about how to prioritize our time, energy, focus, attention, and money. Our lives are in our own hands. But are we making these as conscious choices or are we satisfied with speeding through life in default mode? Hosts Jen Barna MD, Coach Gabriella Dennery MD and Master Certified Coach Jill Farmer interview physicians to explore ways to embrace life AND a medical career, some who’ve chosen a path less traveled and others who have optimized their lives on a traditional medical career path. As coaches from the DocWorking team, Gabriella and Jill discuss actionable tips from their experience coaching physicians. We also invite guests on business, leadership, building financial independence, and other pertinent topics to physicians. If you’re a physician, we want to hear your story! Please email Jen Barna at podcast@docworking.com to be considered. Want to learn more? https://www.DocWorking.com
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Friday Jul 02, 2021
Friday Jul 02, 2021
In today’s episode, Jen talks with Dr. Iyabo Webzell. Dr. Webzell is a board certified pediatrician who owns her own growing practice. She is also an author and a business, lifestyle and dating coach, wife and mother of four. Tune in for a fun and honest conversation that includes tips on using social media and dating advice.
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Dr. Iyabo Webzell (formerly Dr. Okuwobi) is a board-certified pediatrician, Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics. She received her medical degree at the College of Medicine, University of Lagos, Nigeria. She has been practicing medicine for 28 years, and currently owns and runs her practice in Atlanta, Georgia, where she lives with her husband and four children.
She is a business, lifestyle & dating coach. Also known as “The Money to Honey Coach”. She coaches women & men to live financially free lives via entrepreneurship, and by creating multiple income streams. She also coaches women to attract their “honey.”
Dr. Webzell’s book, ‘Permanent Happiness,' is available on Amazon.
Dr. Webzell is also a blogger, and she regularly writes and inspires readers on her blog at the 'Peace Place' on her website www.driyabo.com.
Dr. Webzell is on the medical board of Flo Health, the world’s largest women’s wellness app.
A motivational speaker, she has had repeated speaking engagements at the United Nations. First, in September 2017 at the General Assembly SDG Media Zone. She spoke about happiness and peace, as related to SDG 16-Peace, Justice, and Strong Institutions. Her second speaking engagement with the UN was in January 2018 at the ECOSOC Youth Forum, where she was on a panel discussing bridging across generations, helping young people reach their full potential.
She is active on YouTube and she posts videos weekly about Business & Lifestyle.
Dr. Webzell is dedicated to promoting happiness, purpose, personal fulfillment and peace, making the world a better and more united and peaceful place person by person, and inspiring and motivating our children and youth, with a focus on young women-our future leaders and change-makers.
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Our New DocWorking THRIVE Membership is coming in July!! You’ll get ongoing Small Group Coaching with our Experienced Team, Ongoing Coaching Support in a Private Community that Fosters Peer Support and Mentorship, and superb virtual courses to include ‘STAT: Quick Wins to Get Your Life Back’ with Gabriella Dennery MD and Master Certified Coach Jill Farmer, and ‘A New Era of Leadership,’ with Lisa Kuzman, and so much more!
Join our community by clicking here.
At DocWorking, our specialty is Coaching Physicians. We bring an exceptional experienced team to Coach Physicians to achieve the best in life and medicine.
Doctors devote their lives to caring for others. But does that mean they must sacrifice their own health and wellbeing? Absolutely not!
At DocWorking, we have developed a unique way to embrace it all.
The caring for others that you do so selflessly AND the caring for YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY that you crave in order to bring it all into the perfect balance specific to YOU.
What if we told you that you CAN have it all? The career you dreamed of when you decided to become a doctor AND the life outside of medicine that you desire?
DocWorking empowers physicians to get back on the path to achieving their dreams.
At DocWorking, we understand the tug between life and medicine–a desire to make an impact through your specialized skills but a longing for more time to prioritize your own dreams and ambitions.
We understand because we are a team of physicians and experienced coaches who have been successfully coaching physicians for more than 10 years.
Professional coaching is transformational. Elite athletes, award-winning actors and top-performing executives all know this, which is why they embrace coaching to achieve such extraordinary success. Smart leaders leverage the power of coaching to achieve outcomes that are meaningful, measurable, and attainable. Physicians definitively benefit from coaching, and we are here to provide the best of the best.
It’s Time to Prioritize the Health and Wellness of Physicians! DocWorking is here for you.
Our Coaches Will Show You How!
To learn more about DocWorking, visit us here!
Are you a physician who would like to tell your story? Please email Amanda, our producer, at Amanda@docworking.com to be considered.
And if you like our podcast and would like to subscribe and leave us a 5 star review, we would be extremely grateful!
We’re everywhere you like to get your podcasts! Apple iTunes, Spotify, iHeart Radio, Google, Pandora, PlayerFM, ListenNotes, Amazon, YouTube, Podbean
You can also find us on Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn and Twitter.
Some links in our blogs and show notes are affiliate links, and purchases made via those links may result in small payments to DW. These help toward our production costs. Thank you for supporting DocWorking: The Whole Physician Podcast!
Occasionally, we discuss financial and legal topics. We are not financial or legal professionals. Please consult a licensed professional for financial or legal advice regarding your specific situation.
Podcast produced by: Amanda Taran
Wednesday Jun 30, 2021
Wednesday Jun 30, 2021
“One of the simplest things that I like to share with people is, if you’re wondering if it’s inner chatter or inner dialogue, ask yourself if it’s helpful.” -Master Certified Coach Jill Farmer
In today’s episode, Coaches Gabriella Dennery MD and Jill Farmer discuss how to quiet your inner chatter. We have all experienced inner chatter. It’s that little voice that tells us we aren’t good enough or we can’t get that job we want. It’s important to distinguish the difference between inner chatter and inner dialogue. Inner dialogue is the voice inside that is helping us to prepare for important things, like rehearsing our wedding vows, as Coach Gabriella explains. One is helpful and the other is not. And there is a whole lot more to know. So tune in to get some practical tools to quiet the inner chatter and embrace the inner dialogue starting today.
Books mentioned in the show:
There’s Not Enough Time:...and other lies we tell ourselves , by Master Certified Coach Jill Farmer
Our New DocWorking THRIVE Membership is coming in July!! You’ll get ongoing Small Group Coaching with our Experienced Team, Ongoing Coaching Support in a Private Community that Fosters Peer Support and Mentorship, and superb virtual courses to include ‘STAT: Quick Wins to Get Your Life Back’ with Gabriella Dennery MD and Master Certified Coach Jill Farmer, and ‘A New Era of Leadership,’ with Lisa Kuzman, and so much more!
Join our community by clicking here.
At DocWorking, our specialty is Coaching Physicians. We bring an exceptional experienced team to Coach Physicians to achieve the best in life and medicine.
Doctors devote their lives to caring for others. But does that mean they must sacrifice their own health and wellbeing? Absolutely not!
At DocWorking, we have developed a unique way to embrace it all.
The caring for others that you do so selflessly AND the caring for YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY that you crave in order to bring it all into the perfect balance specific to YOU.
What if we told you that you CAN have it all? The career you dreamed of when you decided to become a doctor AND the life outside of medicine that you desire?
DocWorking empowers physicians to get back on the path to achieving their dreams.
At DocWorking, we understand the tug between life and medicine–a desire to make an impact through your specialized skills but a longing for more time to prioritize your own dreams and ambitions.
We understand because we are a team of physicians and experienced coaches who have been successfully coaching physicians for more than 10 years.
Professional coaching is transformational. Elite athletes, award-winning actors and top-performing executives all know this, which is why they embrace coaching to achieve such extraordinary success. Smart leaders leverage the power of coaching to achieve outcomes that are meaningful, measurable, and attainable. Physicians definitively benefit from coaching, and we are here to provide the best of the best.
It’s Time to Prioritize the Health and Wellness of Physicians! DocWorking is here for you.
Our Coaches Will Show You How!
To learn more about DocWorking, visit us here!
Are you a physician who would like to tell your story? Please email Amanda, our producer, at Amanda@docworking.com to be considered.
And if you like our podcast and would like to subscribe and leave us a 5 star review, we would be extremely grateful!
We’re everywhere you like to get your podcasts! Apple iTunes, Spotify, iHeart Radio, Google, Pandora, PlayerFM, ListenNotes, Amazon, YouTube, Podbean
You can also find us on Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn and Twitter.
Some links in our blogs and show notes are affiliate links, and purchases made via those links may result in small payments to DW. These help toward our production costs. Thank you for supporting DocWorking: The Whole Physician Podcast!
Occasionally, we discuss financial and legal topics. We are not financial or legal professionals. Please consult a licensed professional for financial or legal advice regarding your specific situation.
Podcast produced by: Amanda Taran
Monday Jun 28, 2021
Monday Jun 28, 2021
“It’s easy to let pressing matters get in the forefront without sort of thinking, ‘Hey is this something that’s being put on me by something else, or is this really something that I want to do?’ And you have to sometimes be selfish about saying, ‘Look, this is important to me and I’m going to do this.’ You know, ‘I’m going to do it right now.’” -Neurosurgeon Dr. Michael Webb
In today’s episode, Jill talks with Neurosurgeon and father, Dr. Michael Webb. Dr. Webb is a proud father and in this conversation we find out how he balances his life to make time for medicine and family. We hear how, since residency, he has had a regular schedule of coming home from work and spending time with his son, which he continues to do to this day. He talks about looking forward and realizing that things that might not mean that much today may have a big impact over the course of five to ten years. Tune in to hear a loving father tell about how he manages work/life balance.
Dr. Webb went to medical school at Loyola University Chicago. He completed his residency in neurosurgery at University of Virginia and his fellowship in spine surgery at Barrow Neurological Institute. You can find him currently at NeuroTexas.
Our New DocWorking THRIVE Membership is coming in July!! You’ll get ongoing Small Group Coaching with our Experienced Team, Ongoing Coaching Support in a Private Community that Fosters Peer Support and Mentorship, and superb virtual courses to include ‘STAT: Quick Wins to Get Your Life Back’ with Gabriella Dennery MD and Master Certified Coach Jill Farmer, and ‘A New Era of Leadership,’ with Lisa Kuzman, and so much more!
Join our community by clicking here.
At DocWorking, our specialty is Coaching Physicians. We bring an exceptional experienced team to Coach Physicians to achieve the best in life and medicine.
Doctors devote their lives to caring for others. But does that mean they must sacrifice their own health and wellbeing? Absolutely not!
At DocWorking, we have developed a unique way to embrace it all.
The caring for others that you do so selflessly AND the caring for YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY that you crave in order to bring it all into the perfect balance specific to YOU.
What if we told you that you CAN have it all? The career you dreamed of when you decided to become a doctor AND the life outside of medicine that you desire?
DocWorking empowers physicians to get back on the path to achieving their dreams.
At DocWorking, we understand the tug between life and medicine–a desire to make an impact through your specialized skills but a longing for more time to prioritize your own dreams and ambitions.
We understand because we are a team of physicians and experienced coaches who have been successfully coaching physicians for more than 10 years.
Professional coaching is transformational. Elite athletes, award-winning actors and top-performing executives all know this, which is why they embrace coaching to achieve such extraordinary success. Leading corporations also know this, which is why they encourage executive coaching. Smart leaders leverage the power of coaching to achieve outcomes that are meaningful, measurable, and attainable.
Our Coaches Will Show You How!
It’s Time to Prioritize the Health and Wellness of Physicians! DocWorking is here for you!!
To learn more about DocWorking, visit us here!
Are you a physician who would like to tell your story? Please email Amanda, our producer, at Amanda@docworking.com to be considered.
And if you like our podcast and would like to subscribe and leave us a 5 star review, we would be extremely grateful!
We’re everywhere you like to get your podcasts! Apple iTunes, Spotify, iHeart Radio, Google, Pandora, PlayerFM, ListenNotes, Amazon, YouTube, Podbean
Some links in our blogs and show notes are affiliate links, and purchases made via those links may result in small payments to DW. These help toward our production costs. Thank you for supporting DocWorking: The Whole Physician Podcast!
Occasionally, we discuss financial and legal topics. We are not financial or legal professionals. Please consult a licensed professional for financial or legal advice regarding your specific situation.
Podcast produced by: Amanda Taran
Friday Jun 25, 2021
Friday Jun 25, 2021
“There’s no guesswork, there’s no, ‘Oh how am I going to be covered? What if they change this thing or that thing?’ You know what the deal is.”-Anjali Singh
In today’s episode, Jen talks with Anjali Singh about malpractice insurance. Anjali is a Certified Financial Planner and Financial Advisor. Anjali has some important tips for physicians especially when looking at negotiating a new contract or leaving your current employer. She and Jen discuss the types of malpractice insurance and the important differences between them. This is an eye opening discussion with an expert in her field. Tune in to hear what you really need to know about malpractice insurance when it comes to your livelihood.
Anjali is a Certified Financial Planner and Financial Advisor. She is a Trusted Resource of DocWorking. She specializes in disability, life, malpractice, commercial and workers comp plans. She has been working exclusively with healthcare providers since 2000.
Our New DocWorking THRIVE Subscription, is coming in July!! Small Group Coaching with our Experienced Team, Virtual Courses, Ongoing Coaching Support in a Private Community that Fosters Peer Support and Mentorship, to include virtual courses ‘STAT: Quick Wins to Get Your Life Back’ with Gabriella Dennery MD and Master Certified Coach Jill Farmer, and ‘A New Era of Leadership,’ with Lisa Kuzman, and so much more!
Join our community by clicking here
At DocWorking, our specialty is Coaching Physicians. We bring an exceptional experienced team to Coach Physicians to achieve the best in life and medicine.
Doctors devote their lives to caring for others. But does that mean they must sacrifice their own health and wellbeing? Absolutely not!
At DocWorking, we have developed a unique way to embrace it all.
The caring for others that you do so selflessly AND the caring for YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY that you crave in order to bring it all into the perfect balance specific to YOU.
What if we told you that you CAN have it all? The career you dreamed of when you decided to become a doctor AND the life outside of medicine that you desire?
DocWorking empowers physicians to get back on the path to achieving their dreams.
At DocWorking, we understand the tug between life and medicine–a desire to make an impact through your specialized skills but a longing for more time to prioritize your own dreams and ambitions.
We understand because we are a team of physicians and experienced coaches who have been successfully coaching physicians for more than 10 years.
Professional coaching is transformational. Elite athletes, award-winning actors and top-performing executives all know this, which is why they embrace coaching to achieve such extraordinary success. Leading corporations also know this, which is why they encourage coaching for employees at every level. Smart leaders leverage the power of coaching to achieve outcomes that are meaningful, measurable, and attainable.
Our Coaches Will Show You How!
It’s Time to Prioritize the Health and Wellness of Physicians! DocWorking is here for you!!
To learn more about DocWorking, visit us here!
Are you a physician who would like to tell your story? Please email Amanda, our producer at Amanda@docworking.com to apply.
And if you like our podcast and would like to subscribe and leave us a 5 star review, we would be extremely grateful!
We’re everywhere you like to get your podcasts! Apple iTunes, Spotify, iHeart Radio, Google, Pandora, PlayerFM, ListenNotes, Amazon, YouTube, Podbean
Some links in our blogs and show notes are affiliate links, and purchases made via those links may result in small payments to DW. These help toward our production costs. Thank you for supporting DocWorking: The Whole Physician Podcast!
Occasionally, we discuss financial and legal topics. We are not financial or legal professionals. Please consult a licensed professional for financial or legal advice regarding your specific situation.
Podcast produced by: Amanda Taran
Wednesday Jun 23, 2021
Wednesday Jun 23, 2021
“It’s not going to happen overnight, let’s be clear about that, and it’s not just going to happen with one thing.” -Coach Gabriella Dennery MD
In today’s episode, Coaches Jill Farmer and Gabriella Dennery discuss going from languishing to thriving in a post Covid world. We learn what it means to be languishing and how to find out if we are in that state or not. The first step is to acknowledge how you are feeling. Then we get some real life advice on how to move through languishing and come out the other side. The goal is to be thriving or flourishing. Tune in to find out what steps you can take toward thriving today!
Our New DocWorking THRIVE Subscription, is coming in July!! Small Group Coaching with our Experienced Team, Virtual Courses, Ongoing Coaching Support in a Private Community that Fosters Peer Support and Mentorship, to include these virtual courses: ‘STAT: Quick Wins to Get Your Life Back’ with Gabriella Dennery MD and Master Certified Coach Jill Farmer, and ‘A New Era of Leadership,’ with Lisa Kuzman, and so much more! Join our community by clicking here
At DocWorking, our specialty is Coaching Physicians. We bring an exceptional experienced team to Coach Physicians to achieve the best in life and medicine.
Doctors devote their lives to caring for others. But does that mean they must sacrifice their own health and wellbeing? NO!
At DocWorking, we have developed a unique way to embrace it all.
The caring for others that you so selflessly do AND the caring for YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY that you crave in order to bring it all into the perfect balance specific to YOU.
What if we told you that you CAN have it all? The career you dreamed of when you decided to become a doctor AND the life outside of medicine that you desire?
DocWorking empowers physicians to get back on the path to achieving their dreams.
At DocWorking, we understand the tug between life and medicine–a desire to make an impact through your specialized skills but a longing for more time to prioritize your own dreams and ambitions.
We understand because we are a team of physicians and experienced coaches who have been successfully coaching physicians for more than 10 years.
Professional coaching is transformational. Elite athletes, award-winning actors and top-performing executives all know this, which is why they embrace coaching to achieve such extraordinary success. Leading corporations also know this, which is why they encourage coaching for employees at every level. Smart leaders leverage the power of coaching to achieve outcomes that are meaningful, measurable, and attainable.
Our Coaches Will Show You How!
It’s Time to Prioritize the Health and Wellness of Physicians! DocWorking is here for you!!
To learn more about DocWorking, visit us here!
Are you a physician who would like to tell your story? Please email Amanda, our producer at Amanda@docworking.com to apply.
And if you like our podcast and would like to subscribe and leave us a 5 star review, we would be extremely grateful!
We’re everywhere you like to get your podcasts! Apple iTunes, Spotify, iHeart Radio, Google, Pandora, PlayerFM, ListenNotes, Amazon, YouTube, Podbean
Some links in our blogs and show notes are affiliate links, and purchases made via those links may result in small payments to DW. These help toward our production costs. Thank you for supporting DocWorking: The Whole Physician Podcast!
Occasionally, we discuss financial and legal topics. We are not financial or legal professionals. Please consult a licensed professional for financial or legal advice regarding your specific situation.
Get One-on-One Coaching with Coach Gabriella Dennery MD
Get One-on-One Coaching with Master-Certified Coach Jill Farmer
Podcast produced by: Amanda Taran
Monday Jun 21, 2021
Monday Jun 21, 2021
“As a physician, you have a great deal of negotiating power.” -Employment Attorney Jim Barna
In today’s episode, Jen talks with employment attorney Jim Barna about physician contracts. Jim has a wealth of knowledge and experience in working with physician contracts that we are thrilled to get to tap into here at DocWorking. Tune in to hear about non-competition agreements and what you can do about them, the things you can ask for that may not be offered to you up front and much much more! Whether you anticipate negotiating your first contract out of residency or fellowship soon, are considering switching jobs, or are happy where you currently are, you will be glad you listened to this episode!
Jim Barna is an employment attorney who has represented physicians and medical practices for over 25 years. His Bachelor of Arts degree is from Stony Brook University. His law degree is from Washington University in St. Louis.
Get One-on-One Coaching with Coach Gabriella Dennery MD
Get One-on-One Coaching with Master-Certified Coach Jill Farmer
DocWorking believes the time has come to prioritize the health and wellness of physicians.
Professional coaching is transformational. Elite athletes, award-winning actors and top-performing executives all know this, which is why they embrace coaching to achieve such extraordinary success. Leading corporations also know this, which is why they encourage coaching for employees at every level. Smart leaders leverage the power of coaching to achieve outcomes that are meaningful, measurable, and attainable. Our Coaches Will Show You How!
To learn more about DocWorking, visit us here!
Are you a physician who would like to tell your story? Please email Amanda, our producer at Amanda@docworking.com to apply.
And if you like our podcast and would like to subscribe and leave us a 5 star review, we would be extremely grateful!
We’re everywhere you like to get your podcasts! Apple iTunes, Spotify, iHeart Radio, Google, Pandora, PlayerFM, ListenNotes, Amazon, YouTube, Podbean
Some links in our blogs and show notes are affiliate links, and purchases made via those links may result in small payments to DW. These help toward our production costs. Thank you for supporting DocWorking: The Whole Physician Podcast!
Occasionally, we discuss financial and legal topics. We are not financial or legal professionals. Please consult a licensed professional for financial or legal advice regarding your specific situation.
Podcast produced by: Amanda Taran
Friday Jun 18, 2021
Friday Jun 18, 2021
“Be careful what you wish for! I was hoping to spend more time with my family and my children. Of course, my decision wasn’t calculating with the fact of the pandemic. So what I ended up with was almost like an immense immersion.” -Dr. Jiuming Ye
In today’s episode we celebrate Father’s Day with Dr. Jiuming Ye. Jen and Dr. Ye have a rich, interesting conversation about his life, starting with his childhood in China during a time of turmoil. For years he had no formal schooling, yet he ended up graduating from medical school. He then came to the states for graduate school in pursuit of his PhD. At this time he was doing research until he realized he missed clinical medicine. We pick up the conversation today, now that he retired early almost a year ago from a successful medical career as a nephrologist. His dream of retirement was to spend more time with his family and children and to travel and spend time on his interests. But he didn’t count on the Pandemic. Tune in to hear how things turned out and a really great perspective on parenting and the resiliency of children!
Dr. Jiuming Ye received his M.D. at Capital Institute of Medicine, Bejing PRC. He earned his M.S. at Eastern Illinois University and his Ph.D. at State University of New York at Buffalo. He completed his internship and residency in Internal Medicine at Mount Sinai Medical Center, and served as Chief Resident of Medicine at VAMC/Mount Sinai School of Medicine. His fellowship was completed in the Renal Division at Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Massachusetts General Hospital, Harvard Medical School.
Get One-on-One Coaching with Coach Gabriella Dennery MD
Get One-on-One Coaching with Master-Certified Coach Jill Farmer
DocWorking believes the time has come to prioritize the health and wellness of physicians.
Professional coaching is transformational. Elite athletes, award-winning actors and top-performing executives all know this, which is why they embrace coaching to achieve such extraordinary success. Leading corporations also know this, which is why they encourage coaching for employees at every level. Smart leaders leverage the power of coaching to achieve outcomes that are meaningful, measurable, and attainable.
Our Coaches Will Show You How!
To learn more about DocWorking, visit us here!
Are you a physician who would like to tell your story? Please email Amanda, our producer at Amanda@docworking.com to apply.
And if you like our podcast and would like to subscribe and leave us a 5 star review, we would be extremely grateful!
We’re everywhere you like to get your podcasts! Apple iTunes, Spotify, iHeart Radio, Google, Pandora, PlayerFM, ListenNotes, Amazon, YouTube, Podbean
Some links in our blogs and show notes are affiliate links, and purchases made via those links may result in small payments to DW. These help toward our production costs. Thank you for supporting DocWorking: The Whole Physician Podcast!
Occasionally, we discuss financial and legal topics. We are not financial or legal professionals. Please consult a licensed professional for financial or legal advice regarding your specific situation.
Podcast produced by: Amanda Taran
Wednesday Jun 16, 2021
Wednesday Jun 16, 2021
“Give me a reason why I’m doing this. Why is this significant for me? Because personally, I’m not a terribly extrinsically driven individual. If I don’t have that intrinsic drive that this matters to me for a reason, then every goal in the world is not going to make a difference.” -Coach Gabriella Dennery MD
In today’s episode, Coaches Gabriella and Jill break down the difference between goals and intentions and why that matters. Everyone has goals, spoken or unspoken. But you don’t hear as much about intentions. As it turns out, intentions play a very important role in achieving our goals. Setting intentions might just be the answer you’ve been looking for to help you move toward achieving more meaningful goals in your life.
Excerpt from the show:
“Gabriella, what do we mean when we say goals and what do we mean when we say intentions?” -Master Certified Coach Jill Farmer
“Well, think of it like you're playing darts and you're shooting for that target in the middle, so that's your goal. The goal is the end result but the intention is your aim. It's your mindset. It's your thought process, your motivation. Why do you want to hit that target? That's what we speak about when we speak about intention. Both can be very specific and that's also important. But in coaching we talk about Smart Goals. They are Specific, Measurable, Actionable, Realistic and Time-bound. One of the common coaching goals for clients is, ‘I want to get in shape,’ or at least that's the general vision. It's like, ‘Ok, well how do you want to do that?’ As we continue to explore that question, I had a client not too long ago that said, ‘Ok wait. I like walking and I have a window of time at six o'clock in the morning to get up and do some walking before the house gets busy. So let me use that time to walk.’ ‘Ok, great. How long do you want to walk?’ Because we want to get specific now. ‘Well, it’s going to be 20 minutes.’ ‘What days of the week?’ ‘Well, I’m going to do it on Monday, Wednesday and Friday.’ ‘Great.’ So now we have a Smart Goal and it's time bound, which is important. It gets in the schedule, 20 minutes, three times a week at six o’clock in the morning. Then what happens? It backfires. Why? What if you miss a day? What if you oversleep? What if it rains etc., etc.? Any number of reasons. ‘Oh this is so easy, why can't I get it done? I don't understand, it's not that big a deal. I used to do this 10 years ago.’ Then it can really snowball into this self critique, negative self talk, etc., etc. So goals by themselves, I think, work for some people very effectively. People who are used to having those kinds of markers, they work very well with goals. ‘Three times a week, I’m on it. Got it.’ But for most people it's just another item on the to do list that keeps getting longer and it never gets done. That can be an incredible source of frustration. So we want to set somebody up for success. With that client I started asking, ‘What was your experience ten years ago? What was it like?’ In the end, really the conversation wasn't about what you did but it's about how it felt. ‘How did your day go as you started at six o'clock walking and did you notice a difference between the days when you went walking and the days that you didn't? What was that experience like? How did that impact the rest of your day? How did you feel at the end of the day when you got home from work etc. etc.?’ So we started going through that exploratory coaching process and just really relating to an experience that she already had. At the same time saying, ‘What was good about it? What was memorable about it?’ Because that's where the intention comes from. Yes, ten years forward it may be a completely different plan, but at the same time it's like, ‘Well what's the intention? What are you going for? What makes it believable to you?’ So we want to get it from goal, ‘I’m setting this goal because it's a good idea,’ to an intention. So this client said, ‘My intention is to create me-time in the morning because that's what I really want.’ ‘Oh, so the goal is not about exercise at all. It's about creating me-time, now we're talking!’ So once those little lightbulbs, one after the other, went off and we were able to combine the goal with the intention of creating me-time first thing in the morning ‘So I can feel at peace as my day begins’ or ‘I can feel energized before my day begins.’ You know, why are you doing what you're doing? That's the intention. It speaks to your why and your goal speaks to how you're going to do it. So now the walk was one means of many of creating me-time. Then we started having these little moments throughout the day where she could do that. ‘Well, ok, one of my patients just missed (an appointment). Let me go walk around the neighborhood and see some new sites. There's another opportunity for me-time and combines a little exercise at the same time.’ So we got to play with the idea and really expand the idea by giving it a little more teeth, a little more bite. Making it more believable and more relevant to this particular person as opposed to ‘I’m exercising because that's what I'm supposed to do.’ So the intention really jazzes everything up. It lends a certain excitement to the goal, more than just a goal by itself. Does that make sense, Jill?” -Coach Gabriella Dennery MD
“One hundred percent, I love that. I think you spoke to something important, right? Which is the people who say, ‘I set goals that I don't achieve and then I have self-loathing and I beat myself up. It's very demotivating. I'm either on the wagon or off the wagon of getting it done or achieving what I want to achieve.’ Then there's the people that actually always do achieve their goals. They're checking off the list. I have a client that did that. It's like, ‘Here's where we want to be in terms of revenue.’ All those goals were getting checked and then this client is saying to me, ‘So why is it that I feel so uninterested and I'm burning out even when I'm reaching all the goals?’ I think goals in and of themselves, the target, is not where the meaning comes from. It's not where the richness comes from. So if we're not careful and we just do the extrinsic goals, just the markers, just the check off the list things, just the meeting of the department goals. For this particular physician I'm talking about, over time, we may still achieve them but we're getting less motivated, we're getting less meaning out of it. We know that burnout research tells us that physicians who have more connection to why their work matters burn out less, or a way to treat burnout is to be able to connect to why your work matters. So to me the intention is getting connected to why your work matters. There's been some other research that was done of military academy graduates from a number of years ago, and I'll just summarize. It said that people that had extrinsic-only goals, what rank I want to be, what weight I want to be, what my marital status is, were actually far less successful. That was measured by whether they achieved those goals versus people that had more intrinsic goals like, ‘I want to be a leader.’ There's the intention to lead. ‘I want to be somebody who is great at handling obstacles and challenges and stays calm in those times.’ Those more intrinsic intentions that people set and then balance with a way to get there that was measurable and achievable and not just pie in the sky. ‘Oh I have this intention but I'm never going to do it.’ That's where it seemed like the magic happened.” -Master Certified Coach Jill Farmer
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